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evan mcb



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PostPosted: Mon, 10.20.08 9:34 am    Post subject: go vote Reply with quote

unless you're going to do it wrong, then don't vote kthxbai
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PostPosted: Mon, 10.20.08 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just mailed mine in. There's a great fayetteville proposal to vote on to make the possession of marijuana for personal use the police's last priority. For some reason the proposal also includes that the city of fayetteville will spam congress with letters to do the same until they give in.
also included: not-legally married folks (read - the gay ones) being allowed to adopt? Will Arkansas finally get a lottery? Should we allow the allotment of money to keep our water clean? I can hardly contain my excitement!
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PostPosted: Mon, 10.20.08 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I want is a casino...

...at every street corner.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10.22.08 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please vote against the Lottery:

Althought, I guess I don't mind letting poor people pay for my kids college...

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/tabor/041110

"Let's cut to the chase: I personally believe that using a legalized Lottery to fund education, roads and other public services is bad policy for many reasons.

First, it undermines the importance of a people's work ethic and saving for the future. Funding necessary public services from gambling revenues is the antithesis of responsible fiscal management of public resources. Politicians who don't want to make hard choices about balanced budgets love to hide behind the Lottery.

The Lottery is grossly inefficient from a resource management standpoint. Roughly half of the gross income derived from millions of players is paid out in huge cash prizes to a handful of winners. The administrative costs of running the bureaucracy that manages the Lottery, plus the massive advertising campaigns that entice people to play, eat up a big percentage of the profits, too. What's left over for public works is just a pittance compared to the vast amount of money wasted by the Lottery.

Second, the Lottery is really a hidden and regressive tax on those least able to afford it: "inner-city" ghetto dwellers plus those on Welfare and others of a lower socio-economic status. These are the people who buy Lottery tickets in disproportionate numbers, hoping for a lucky bet and a big win to boost them out of poverty.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10.22.08 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryno Saurus wrote:
not-legally married folks (read - the gay ones) being allowed to adopt?
Hey I'm not gay ... and might .. someday ... want to raise a child ...maybe... Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue, 07.21.09 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grrr....


http://nwanews.com/adg/News/264856/
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xaja



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PostPosted: Tue, 07.21.09 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jwillgoesfast wrote:
Please vote against the Lottery: ...
First, it undermines the importance of a people's work ethic and saving for the future. Funding necessary public services from gambling revenues is the antithesis of responsible fiscal management of public resources. Politicians who don't want to make hard choices about balanced budgets love to hide behind the Lottery.

This is a poor argument. One can plan for the future and play the lottery. The odds of one winning millions are astronomical against it happening; however, participants know this going into the purchase and choose to take advantage of the chance of winning b/c it is fun. The possibility of "what if" is quite exciting.

Agreed, that politicians don't always allocate funds where they should but having more money helps and portions of lottery revenue are required to go to good causes such as education. If people are willing to buy lottery tickets that fund good causes then why not let them especially since budget cuts are rampant in this age of recession.

jwillgoesfast wrote:
The Lottery is grossly inefficient from a resource management standpoint. Roughly half of the gross income derived from millions of players is paid out in huge cash prizes to a handful of winners. The administrative costs of running the bureaucracy that manages the Lottery, plus the massive advertising campaigns that entice people to play, eat up a big percentage of the profits, too. What's left over for public works is just a pittance compared to the vast amount of money wasted by the Lottery.

Inefficient management of funds is a good point against lottery but this is a matter of electing/hiring the wrong personnel who set up system not a problem with the lottery itself. Also, see points above ie More revenue=more money for charity even if some revenue is wasted.

jwillgoesfast wrote:
Second, the Lottery is really a hidden and regressive tax on those least able to afford it: "inner-city" ghetto dwellers plus those on Welfare and others of a lower socio-economic status. These are the people who buy Lottery tickets in disproportionate numbers, hoping for a lucky bet and a big win to boost them out of poverty.
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One shouldn't outlaw something(freedoms, actions, substances, etc) b/c it has the potential for abuse. Think about the number of deaths related to alcohol, driving a car, or owning guns.

If someone chooses to continuously spend entire paychecks on lottery tickets then that individual is a fool. Poverty is not the issue, stupidity is. I would love it if anyone with an IQ below 90 was born sterile, but I would never vote for a law that helped breed stupidity out of the human race. (Sidebar: Have you seen Idiocracy? The premise was funny but the movie was sub-par.)

In conclusion, the lottery has issues but overall the benefits outweigh the pitfalls.
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evan mcb



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PostPosted: Tue, 07.21.09 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xaja wrote:
Have you seen Idiocracy? The premise was funny but the movie was sub-par.


Sub-par? There's that fag-talk we talked about. I'm sorry but your shit is retarded.
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PostPosted: Wed, 07.22.09 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evan mcb wrote:

Sub-par? There's that fag-talk we talked about. I'm sorry but your shit is retarded.


What a queer response?
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PostPosted: Wed, 07.22.09 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xaja wrote:
I would love it if anyone with an IQ below 90 was born sterile, but I would never vote for a law that helped breed stupidity out of the human race.


...never? NEVER?

Although there would have to be some conditional factors, so that star athletes wouldn't be wiped out of the gene pool. But then again, if we made conditions for awesome athletes to live, that may lead to speciation of the human race...but the smart people would exploit the dumb people... I see something like Neanderthalic Colosseum battles...
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PostPosted: Wed, 07.22.09 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.lektrogirl.com/coolstuff/myworstnightmare/
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PostPosted: Wed, 07.22.09 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think IQ is the problem... it's mostly common sense and the ability to not be an asshole. Which could mean that i would be cast out but i know plenty of high IQ low intelligence people.
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evan mcb



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PostPosted: Wed, 07.22.09 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RandomHero wrote:
i don't think IQ is the problem... it's mostly common sense and the ability to not be an asshole. Which could mean that i would be cast out but i know plenty of high IQ low intelligence people.


The first sentence was ironic, the first clause of the second sentence was self-deprecating, and the second clause of the second sentence bought a nice little bungalow in Renata-Town.
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PostPosted: Thu, 07.23.09 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evan mcb wrote:
...the second clause of the second sentence bought a nice little bungalow in Renata-Town.


It's a fixer-upper.
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PostPosted: Fri, 07.24.09 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xaja wrote:

This is a poor argument. One can plan for the future and play the lottery. The odds of one winning millions are astronomical against it happening; however, participants know this going into the purchase...


For people like you and me, i agree that it is nothing more than good clean fun, but the "average" lotto player lives below the poverty line and often spends money they should be spending on food on their chance at "finally catching a break".

xaja wrote:

... portions of lottery revenue are required to go to good causes such as education.


yes, but of the 30% of revenue generated by these lotteries that actually does go to fund education is simply "poor people paying to send middle class kids to college"

xaja wrote:

Inefficient management of funds is a good point against lottery but this is a matter of electing/hiring the wrong personnel who set up system


the overwhelming majority of lotteries are run with exorbitantly high admin costs, it is most, not a few of them w/ bad/greedy administrators.

xaja wrote:

One shouldn't outlaw something(freedoms, actions, substances, etc) b/c it has the potential for abuse. Think about the number of deaths related to alcohol, driving a car, or owning guns.


Although driving a car while drunk and shooting my guns is one of my favorite things to do, it is probably in our society's best interest to be outlawed. Should we outlaw ponzi schemes b/c of potential for abuse?


xaja wrote:

If someone chooses to continuously spend entire paychecks on lottery tickets then that individual is a fool. Poverty is not the issue, stupidity is.


A fool is born every minute, a fool and his money are soon parted, the best place for a fool's money is in my pocket...perhaps these things are true and my efforts are futile.

xaja wrote:

In conclusion, the lottery has issues but overall the benefits outweigh the pitfalls.


I respectifully disagree.
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