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Cam Wow



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PostPosted: Sat, 11.10.12 8:07 pm    Post subject: LS at MLC Reply with quote

We went 4-0 today with 11 people! We beat UNT, Winona St, Wash U, then our cross game against Minnesota-Deluth on ultimate point! Hopefully games don't get rained out tomorrow, 80% chance of thunderstorms.

Go Speed!
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PostPosted: Sat, 11.10.12 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done! The bracket could not have gone better for you to make a run on Sunday.

http://scores.usaultimate.org/scores/#college-open/tournament/11657

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PostPosted: Sun, 11.11.12 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We lost a wind battle with Texas A&M, couldn't get the upwinder ever in real strong wind. Then lost a rain battle to Carnegie. Not a great day but we roughed it out and fought hard today
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PostPosted: Sun, 11.11.12 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just in case u guys are not aware, I wanted to repost this from another thread. The full thread is

http://www.ls-ultimate.com/viewtopic.php?p=55753&sid=ae58562b286b96b8f4acf9cb418d721e

xaja wrote:
Chuck wrote:

I was surprised to hear that Brosh elected for upwind offense during the flip. Either we would get a break, or they would score upwind (and probably the following downwind) was the rationale that I assumed Brosh was using.


FLIP 101
You can win the game before it starts. Ultimate is dominated by offense. Even though all games are supposed to be won by a margin of two, time limits and inept TDs have all but removed this criteria from the rules. Hence, teams do not have to earn even one break to win the game.

If you win the flip take the disc. Mathematically, you are given a greater margin for error. The only exception to this rule is if you find yourself in an upwind/downwind game. If weather is a factor always take the wind. Mother nature is a bitch; you want her on your team.

As far as the Brosh scenario, he may or may not have been wrong. If he won the flip outright and chose offense then he was wrong. If he lost the flip, then you chose the upwind side, and next he picked offense then he might have been correct.

There are lots of factors that go into whether or not you take O or pull upwind and try to get a D and then score upwind. Getting a D and then scoring upwind is usually harder then just getting one free chance to work it upwind without having to get a D 1st. However, if you have a strong upwind puller and your opponents are stupid enough to work it downwind you can force a turn closer to the upwind side and not have to work it 70+ yds.

Summary:
If no wind, then choose offense.
If windy, then take the upwind side.
In conclusion, eat the pussy.
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PostPosted: Sun, 11.11.12 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we had one opportunity where we got it within 25 yards or so, and had a look but didnt get it in. They were wise and hucked it whole time, we did that too, but they scored going full field upwind and we never did
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PostPosted: Sun, 11.11.12 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bills sucked today too.
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Cam Wow



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PostPosted: Sun, 11.11.12 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You clearly didn't WATCH the game! They almost won! 15 yds away!
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PostPosted: Sun, 11.11.12 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacob wrote:
The Bills sucked today too.


Isn't that Omaha's MLS team?
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PostPosted: Mon, 11.12.12 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xaja wrote:
Just in case u guys are not aware, I wanted to repost this from another thread. The full thread is

http://www.ls-ultimate.com/viewtopic.php?p=55753&sid=ae58562b286b96b8f4acf9cb418d721e

xaja wrote:
Chuck wrote:

I was surprised to hear that Brosh elected for upwind offense during the flip. Either we would get a break, or they would score upwind (and probably the following downwind) was the rationale that I assumed Brosh was using.


FLIP 101
You can win the game before it starts. Ultimate is dominated by offense. Even though all games are supposed to be won by a margin of two, time limits and inept TDs have all but removed this criteria from the rules. Hence, teams do not have to earn even one break to win the game.

If you win the flip take the disc. Mathematically, you are given a greater margin for error. The only exception to this rule is if you find yourself in an upwind/downwind game. If weather is a factor always take the wind. Mother nature is a bitch; you want her on your team.

As far as the Brosh scenario, he may or may not have been wrong. If he won the flip outright and chose offense then he was wrong. If he lost the flip, then you chose the upwind side, and next he picked offense then he might have been correct.

There are lots of factors that go into whether or not you take O or pull upwind and try to get a D and then score upwind. Getting a D and then scoring upwind is usually harder then just getting one free chance to work it upwind without having to get a D 1st. However, if you have a strong upwind puller and your opponents are stupid enough to work it downwind you can force a turn closer to the upwind side and not have to work it 70+ yds.

Summary:
If no wind, then choose offense.
If windy, then take the upwind side.
In conclusion, eat the pussy.


You don't have to assume they're retarded anymore... Matt and Kearney are gone. As for Brosh's decisions.... Just be happy he showed up before halftime
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PostPosted: Mon, 11.12.12 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A short write up

Speed headed to MLC with 11 players this weekend. Myself, Abe, Wes, Sebastian, Gentry, Brian, Cumbarge, Walker, Nathan, Wynn (rookie), and Chris (rookie). Seeded at the top of pool H, we had to win our pool along with a play in game to still be in contention on Sunday.

Game 1 vs UNT

We take half 7-4 after some unnecessary turnovers and defensive mistakes and go on to win the game 11-5.

Game 2 vs Winona State.

We take half 7-2, the wind is starting to gust at 15-20 MPH so it has turned into more of a zone game. We use this as practice with our 3-3-1 and 1-4-2 zones. Wesley and Gentry did a great job as marks for us. Meanwhile the Winona State captain says to me "We're playing so awful this game, I've never seen us play this bad". We work their zone and score repeatedly winning 12-5

Game 3 vs Wash U

Wash U had lost their previous game to Winona St so sitting at 1-1, the winner of this game would win the pool. We traded downwind points until i believe 4's when a big huck goes up to the end zone where Sebastian jumped over a guy for the score and tacos the disc. We used this momentum and put on our 3-3-1 where we force them into the back corner of the end zone where Abe gets a callahan. Pick 6 bitch. We take half 7-5. Wash U wouldn't back down and after some mistakes by us, they break and hardcap blows while it's 10-10. We work the disc down the field for the game. 11-10

Game 4 vs Minnesota-Duluth

Coming off an appearance at college nationals this year, the Northern Lights had high expectations for the tournament, still probably the ugliest jerseys though. After going 0-3 in the power pools, we met them in a game where the winner would get to play Texas A&M in the prequarters Sunday Morning. We trade points for the first few points, go down 2 breaks and they take half 7-5. On the sideline our now 10 man roster (walker went down with a knee injury) is exhausted, but still confident we can win. Speed comes out of half and goes on a 3-1 run. Once again we reach ultimate point, running on fumes we work our unders down the field until we find we in the end zone. He toes the line and cramps in the process. We win 12-11

Game 5 vs Texas A&M (pre-quarters)

The weather outside is not ideal. 50 degrees, 20 MPH winds with gusts at 30, and a storm rolling in. The wind has quickly become and upwind downwind game. We win the flip and take the wind and both teams strategies immediately become downwind hucks and upwind zone. We get broken upwind once in the first half and lose 13-10.

Game 6 vs Carnagie Mellon (9th place bracket)

The storm begins while our team is stading on the line waiting for the first pull. It started raining. Hard. Our roster is down to 8 people now and in the conditions our throws and hands just weren't there. CM took advantage when we turned the disc near the endzone and quickly took half 7-2. The weather is miserable and we continue to not perform in the elements after a long weekend and lose 13-3. The tournament is then cancelled due to the weather
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